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Ongoing Awareness Communications and Regular Training Are Necessary For Effective Information Security & Privacy Programs

Scott Wright over at Streetwise Security Zone graciously invited me to do a podcast interview with him to discuss information security, privacy and compliance training and awareness issues. In the last half of February I had the pleasure of taking him up on his invitation!

You can hear the full podcast here.

Here are the notes Scott compiled about our discussion topics:

  • The disturbing trend of cutbacks leading to greater risks.
  • The need to do initial organizational assessments before applying security controls
  • Security inadequacies stemming from a "compliance" mentality
  • How technology-oriented business drivers are leaving security and privacy considerations behind
  • Why off the shelf products require increased focus on security awareness
  • Economic influences on employee likelihood of becoming insider threats
  • What types of cutbacks are organizations making that are potentially dangerous?
  • Rationalizing security as a "foundation" investment instead of an unnecessary expense
  • Compliance with regulations is not sufficient for most businesses
  • How are the most regulated industries doing with security and privacy?
  • How awareness affects quality and mistakes
  • How management's skepticism about training becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy if they skimp on quality
  • How training quality can be improved
  • How much can you expect people to remember from a single class?
  • How to make training content stick over time
  • Why measurement of student retention is important in getting good results
  • How the Honey Stick Project relates to measuring security awareness
  • Rebecca's "Protecting Information" newsletter's metrics tips
  • The impact of being able to show metrics
  • What about the new US government's position on information security and privacy going forward?
  • Should Obama be able to keep his Blackberry?
  • Electronic Health Records (EHR) and Medical identity theft
  • Rebecca's eye-opening experience, and the importance of "knowing your audience's motivations and objectives" when talking about security
  • Why executives aren't hearing IT people's messages about security
  • Innovative approaches to security training that have provided good results for Rebecca


If you listen to it, please let me know what you think! I always welcome feedback.

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Rebecca Herold's Bio:

Rebecca Herold, CISSP, CIPP, CISM, CISA, FLMI, has been providing information security, privacy and regulatory assistance and services to organizations from a wide range of industries for the past two decades. Rebecca was instrumental in building the information security and privacy program while at Principal Financial Group, which was awarded the CSI Information Security Program of the Year Award in 1998. IT Security ranked Rebecca as one of the top 59 IT security influencers, and Computerworld put Rebecca their list of the world's best privacy experts and on their list of the best privacy consulting firms in both 2007 and 2008. Rebecca has been CPO for two consulting organizations, and has had her own information privacy, security and compliance business since 2004. Rebecca has written chapters for several books, dozens of articles, and has been writing a monthly privacy column for the CSI Alert newsletter since the beginning of 2001, and is working on her 13th book. Some of her other books include The Privacy Papers, Managing an Information Security and Privacy Awareness and Training Program, The Definitive Guide to Security Inside the Perimeter (Realtime Publishers), The Shortcut Guide to Improving IT Service Support through ITIL (Realtime Publishers), and The Practical Guide to HIPAA Privacy and Security Compliance. In addition, Rebecca is the leader of The Realtime IT Compliance Community where she posts to her IT Compliance weblog. You can contact Rebecca at: rebecca_herold@realtimepublishers.net.